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旧 Jan 29, 10, 11:56 am
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需要帮助了解新的隶属关系

I am a bit of an 出sider when it comes to YX 和 F9 和 would like some help understanding the new relationships, especially with regard to Milwaukee.

First, F9 和 YX are subsidiaries of Republic 和 are heading toward a full-fledged merger. But F9 和 FL are partners with regard to frequent flyer programs 和 FL is now a major competitor of F9/YX in Milwaukee. And to confuse things even more, how does Skywest fit in? I thought Skywest was the commuter arm for YX, but now Skywest is flying codeshare routes for FL 出 of MKE.
旧 Jan 29, 10, 12:50 pm
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在这里,我将尝试归纳为一些简单的要点:
- You are correct, F9 和 YX are owned by Republic 和 have started integrating aircraft 和 flight schedules...They have a codeshare right now 和 you can redeem frontier miles on 中西部 flights 和 vice versa...You will find that Frontier metal (A319's) is being used on 中西部 routes 和 中西部 metal is being used on Frontier routes (mostly E-190's from what I understand).
-FL和F9仍然保持着合作关系,但是由于YX与Delta共享代码,并且猜测YX希望加入更大的联盟之一,因此关于F9 / YX合并后的未来将有很多讨论。
- As for Skywest...I am almost positive that Skywest is done flying for YX (someone will probably correct me 和 please do) 和 Republic has moved their fleet of E145's onto those routes...someone please enhance this bullet since there is obviously more detail that I am leaving 出.
旧 Jan 29, 10, 1:04 pm
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Skywest used to do flying for 中西部 航空公司. However they are their own company 和 also do flying for other companies like United. The airline you are probably thinking about is SkyWay which was a commuter airline that was wholly owned by 中西部 airlines. SkyWay no longer operates as an airline, but now handle ground operations at multiple airports for 中西部 和 some other airlines.
旧 Jan 29, 10, 1:06 pm
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So is this page 出 of date?

http://www.midwestairlines.com/AboutUs/PlaneTypes.aspx
旧 Jan 29, 10, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by ExitRowAisle 查看帖子
不再!

谢谢你让我知道。试图跟上很多变化是很艰难的。
旧 Jan 29, 10, 1:24 pm
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1. 中西部 和 Frontier are both owned by Republic, 和 they are moving toward making their two products be very standard 和 coordinated. But they are separate airlines.

2.从技术上讲,中西部航空公司只是Republic为其自己的品牌航班使用的品牌名称。因此,实际上两家航空公司不是Midwest和Frontier,而是Republic(以Midwest经营)和Froniter,后者也是Republic拥有的另一家航空公司。但对公众而言,它们是中西部和边境……两家独立的航空公司。当我谈到"Midwest" here, it is technically Republic but branded as 中西部.

3.许多人认为两家航空公司合而为一只是时间问题,但这就是 目前情况如何,也没有关于何时发生的任何公共信息。

4. The two airlines did an aircraft swap several months ago with a handful of planes. 中西部 needed some larger planes, 和 Frontier needed some smaller ones. So a small portion of 中西部's flights are actually operated by Frontier aircraft 和 crews, 和 a small portion of Frontiers' flights are actually operated by 中西部's aircraft 和 crews.

5.从那时起,他们还开始在彼此的网络之间共享代码。

6. The AirTran frequent flyer partnership with Frontier predates any of this 中西部/Republic ownership 和 cooperation. AirTran is indeed a big rival to 中西部 in Milwaukee, but so far the frequent flyer relationship between AirTran 和 Frontier remains. 中西部 和 Frontier are separate airlines, so flights sold as the 中西部 brand are 不 part of the AirTran frequent flyer deal.

7.同样,Midwest将与Delta的关系带到了桌上。不仅这不仅是飞行常客的互惠,而且代码共享使Midwest可以在密尔沃基-底特律-哈特福德(全部在DL上)或Milwaukee-Atlanta-Miami(从YX到ATL,从DL到MIA)。达美航空和中西部航空之间的这项协议仅成立了几个月,以取代先前与中西部和西北航空的交易。同样,Frontier和Midwest是分开的航空公司,因此以Frontier品牌出售的航班不属于达美航空常旅客或代码共享协议的一部分。

The AirTran frequent flyer partnership with Frontier predates any of this 中西部/Republic ownership 和 cooperation. AirTran is indeed a big rival to 中西部 in Milwaukee, but so far the frequent flyer relationship between AirTran 和 Frontier remains. 中西部 和 Frontier are separate airlines, so flights operated as the 中西部 brand are 不 part of the AirTran frequent flyer deal.

8. Skywest不在“共和国/中西部/边境”图片中。 Republic买断了与Midwest的合同,以便他们可以接管中西部品牌的RJ飞行。如今,主要航空公司合作伙伴对Skywest飞往中西部的CRJ的需求并不高,因此Skywest与AirTran达成了一项协议,以在密尔沃基飞行六架CRJ,这是与FL的代码共享协议。飞机被涂成Skywest(不是AirTran),机组人员和机上品牌全都是Skywest或通用名称。但是,这些航班仅以FL *的形式出售,而不是以Skywest的形式出售,地勤人员是FL,售票柜台是FL,当您在任何地方预订该机票时,看起来就和其他代码共享一样。 AirTran与Skywest之间代码共享的财务协议是一种老式的做法,运营商之间可以共享收益,而不是"fee for departure"AirTran只需向Skywest支付这笔费用,然后保留所有收入并希望获利。目前尚不清楚任何一方如何解决这个问题,但两者都有很短的时间"out"条款(我认为是6个月)。在前几天举行的AirTran收益电话会议上,AirTran的高管对此表示轻描淡写,称预计增长不会太大。

我很好奇它是否会在Skywest收益电话中直接解决。它是如此新,以至于说起来很容易"we have seen growth" (which is obvious since virtually all new service starts 出 very light at the very beginning) 和 "we are pleased" 要么 "目前达到了我们的目标",两者都是完全主观的。

最后由knope2001编辑; 10月1日,10日 下午1:29


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